Karl Rove SLAMS Trump for poor campaign management

Weightaholic wrote:He's absolutely right. Trump had ample opportunities for counterattack during the debate, and he was too fucking stupid to capitalise on them.

They're eating the cats and dogs!

2 things.

1. If he was disciplined enough to use the assassination attempts (crazy now there's multiple) to his advantage, he would be a clear leader in the polls.

2. If he was smart enough in the debate to not get baited like an absolute chump after about 20 minutes, I think he would be clearly leading in the polls.

But no....

Weightaholic wrote:He's absolutely right.  Trump had ample opportunities for counterattack during the debate, and he was too fucking stupid to capitalise on them.

They're eating the cats and dogs!

2 things.  

1.  If he was disciplined enough to use the assassination attempts (crazy now there's multiple) to his advantage, he would be a clear leader in the polls.

2.  If he was smart enough in the debate to not get baited like an absolute chump after about 20 minutes, I think he would be clearly leading in the polls.

But no....

benedetto27 wrote:
-lost the debate

Taskmob wrote:Doesn't really matter. People are already very aware of record inflation and immigration, it's something that affects everyone everyday. The thread is moot.

Mckay23 wrote:
How would you advise Trump to use the assassination attempts to his advantage? That fact is major segment of the country was mocking him about his ear bandage days after during the RNC.

Mckay23 wrote:Baited?

Weightaholic wrote:The perfect opportunity to settle down and start pushing a "unity" message.  Instead, he has zero discipline.

Yes... baited!  All it took was a comment about his crowd sizes for him to start sperging out.  The worst part was... it was absolutely telegraphed.  She chummed the water and he showed up for a mouthful every time.

Mckay23 wrote:
There was no mention of crowd sizes.

IAMBEE wrote:

Mckay23 wrote:
There was no mention of crowd sizes.

I'm a big Trump supporter but I think he did go off on that. I don't remember exactly what happened but she said something that triggered Trump to go on about his crowd sizes and how her support is all fake and its bused in. I was thinking to myself why is he wasting his time on this when he should be attacking her on terrible policies and record.

Mckay23 wrote:

1. Why did you cover up Biden's declining health?
2 Why did the Biden-Harris ticket support open borders during the pandemic?
3. Why did you publicize that Jussie Smollet was attacked in an attempted lynching before any substantial investigation?

Weightaholic wrote:

Yes, some of the good questions that could have been asked if Trump was a) prepared, and b) not an idiot.

Harris and Trump won't be able to ask questions of each other. Only the moderators — ABC's David Muir and Linsey Davis — are permitted to ask questions. wrote:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-harris-debate-rules-2024/

Mckay23 wrote:

Weightaholic wrote:

Yes, some of the good questions that could have been asked if Trump was a) prepared, and b) not an idiot.

Trump did not have the authority to ask Kamala questions by the rules:

Harris and Trump won't be able to ask questions of each other. Only the moderators — ABC's David Muir and Linsey Davis — are permitted to ask questions. wrote:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-harris-debate-rules-2024/

Weightaholic wrote:

So his response is to target her covering up Biden's declining health.
He targets her by talking about her "open Borders"
He targets her by bringing up the Jessie Smollett thing if he gets opportunity.

There's plenty of ways to introduce these issues rather than asking direct questions, but again, they require agility and preparedness.

The biggest case in point. when hit with immigration (allegedly his strong suit) he starts raving like an imbecile about "they're eating the dogs!".  It's become a fcking meme now, and not in a good way.  

There was plenty of opportunity for counter attack on a lot of issues, but he had nothing.  She controlled the narrative, and he just responded like the chump he is.

Face facts, he's an idiot.  He's always been stupid, but at this point grandpa just needs to get off the sauce and go to bed.

Weightaholic wrote:

So his response is to target her covering up Biden's declining health.
He targets her by talking about her "open Borders"
He targets her by bringing up the Jessie Smollett thing if he gets opportunity.

There's plenty of ways to introduce these issues rather than asking direct questions, but again, they require agility and preparedness.

The biggest case in point. when hit with immigration (allegedly his strong suit) he starts raving like an imbecile about "they're eating the dogs!".  It's become a fcking meme now, and not in a good way.  

There was plenty of opportunity for counter attack on a lot of issues, but he had nothing.  She controlled the narrative, and he just responded like the chump he is.

Face facts, he's an idiot.  He's always been stupid, but at this point grandpa just needs to get off the sauce and go to bed.

jasonw1178 wrote:I agree and it's what makes me cringe is how Trump just misses so many opportunities.  Trump does what Bill O'reilly calls "Obloviating" where you go on and on about something to the point saying too much to the point of confusing who you are talking to.  

DAVID MUIR: So let's get started. I want to begin tonight with the issue voters repeatedly say is their number one issue, and that is the economy and the cost of living in this country. Vice President Harris, you and President Trump were elected four years ago and your opponent on the stage here tonight often asks his supporters, are you better off than you were four years ago? When it comes to the economy, do you believe Americans are better off than they were four years ago?

VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS: So, I was raised as a middle-class kid. And I am actually the only person on this stage who has a plan that is about lifting up the middle class and working people of America. I believe in the ambition, the aspirations, the dreams of the American people. And that is why I imagine and have actually a plan to build what I call an opportunity economy. Because here's the thing. We know that we have a shortage of homes and housing, and the cost of housing is too expensive for far too many people. We know that young families need support to raise their children. And I intend on extending a tax cut for those families of $6,000, which is the largest child tax credit that we have given in a long time. So that those young families can afford to buy a crib, buy a car seat, buy clothes for their children. My passion, one of them, is small businesses. I was actually -- my mother raised my sister and me but there was a woman who helped raise us. We call her our second mother. She was a small business owner. I love our small businesses. My plan is to give a $50,000 tax deduction to start-up small businesses, knowing they are part of the backbone of America's economy. My opponent, on the other hand, his plan is to do what he has done before, which is to provide a tax cut for billionaires and big corporations, which will result in $5 trillion to America's deficit. My opponent has a plan that I call the Trump sales tax, which would be a 20% tax on everyday goods that you rely on to get through the month. Economists have said that Trump's sales tax would actually result for middle-class families in about $4,000 more a year because of his policies and his ideas about what should be the backs of middle-class people paying for tax cuts for billionaires.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/harris-trump-presidential-debate-transcript/story?id=113560542

First let me respond as to the rallies. She said people start leaving. People don't go to her rallies. There's no reason to go. And the people that do go, she's busing them in and paying them to be there. And then showing them in a different light. So, she can't talk about that. People don't leave my rallies. We have the biggest rallies, the most incredible rallies in the history of politics. That's because people want to take their country back. Our country is being lost. We're a failing nation. And it happened three and a half years ago. And what, what's going on here, you're going to end up in World War 3, just to go into another subject. What they have done to our country by allowing these millions and millions of people to come into our country. And look at what's happening to the towns all over the United States. And a lot of towns don't want to talk -- not going to be Aurora or Springfield. A lot of towns don't want to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it. In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came in. They're eating the cats. They're eating -- they're eating the pets of the people that live there. And this is what's happening in our country. And it's a shame. As far as rallies are concerned, as far -- the reason they go is they like what I say. They want to bring our country back. They want to make America great again. It's a very simple phrase. Make America great again. She's destroying this country. And if she becomes president, this country doesn't have a chance of success. Not only success. We'll end up being Venezuela on steroids.